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	<title>Comments on: How Complex Can You Get With Degrafa? Very.</title>
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	<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/</link>
	<description>Degrafa is a declarative graphics framework.</description>
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		<title>By: Subeesh</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Subeesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

It is really very nice . I did a similar example here

http://subeesh.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/butterfly-in-flex-degrafa/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>It is really very nice . I did a similar example here</p>
<p><a href="http://subeesh.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/butterfly-in-flex-degrafa/" rel="nofollow">http://subeesh.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/butterfly-in-flex-degrafa/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I didn&#039;t find any answer PPAI&#039;s question. Could one download the flex source code inclusive zoom option of the tige example?(http://www.degrafa.com/wp-content/source/swf/EyeOfTheTiger.swf)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I didn&#8217;t find any answer PPAI&#8217;s question. Could one download the flex source code inclusive zoom option of the tige example?(http://www.degrafa.com/wp-content/source/swf/EyeOfTheTiger.swf)</p>
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		<title>By: amar shukla</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>amar shukla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool work man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool work man!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Dove</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up from my earlier post, I finally had a chance to download and install the flex builder trial and play with it today.
I have an svg translator that is targeted towards actionscript and had a quick shot at implementing some degrafa mxml output, based on what little I understand of how flex works. I had a look at the tiger example mxml above and some other snippets from the degrafa samples.. the definitions - fills &amp; strokes etc - seemed to be centralized in other examples so that&#039;s what I did.
I got the tiger translating fully automated to degrafa markup. There&#039;s an example here (the only thing I changed was the Surface&#039;s verticalCenter and HorizontalCenter attributes (by instinct, lol). Those were the only changes I had to make after the paste into Flexbuilder. I even figured out to make view source work! (but not how to switch off debugging when publishing I think)
http://linearticulator.com/files/linearticulator/degrafademo/degrafaTest.html

That example has all the cubic beziers downconverted to quadratics. Which is obviously not necessary with degrafa...so I will make that an option.

I see you guys are working on an AIR version which is great, I&#039;m not seeking to compete directly with that, I am hoping to implement degrafa output as one of a number of options for different code format outputs - you can see some actionscript2 animations generated from svg sources at the home page of the linearticulator.com site. I&#039;d be keen to talk to someone on the core team about a few things...things that I can do correctly when I output actionscript code but can&#039;t see how to do in degrafa markup. e.g. skew transforms on gradients. (I see Transform is listed as &#039;coming soon&#039; so perhaps that&#039;s the reason although I may have overlooked something too!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up from my earlier post, I finally had a chance to download and install the flex builder trial and play with it today.<br />
I have an svg translator that is targeted towards actionscript and had a quick shot at implementing some degrafa mxml output, based on what little I understand of how flex works. I had a look at the tiger example mxml above and some other snippets from the degrafa samples.. the definitions &#8211; fills &amp; strokes etc &#8211; seemed to be centralized in other examples so that&#8217;s what I did.<br />
I got the tiger translating fully automated to degrafa markup. There&#8217;s an example here (the only thing I changed was the Surface&#8217;s verticalCenter and HorizontalCenter attributes (by instinct, lol). Those were the only changes I had to make after the paste into Flexbuilder. I even figured out to make view source work! (but not how to switch off debugging when publishing I think)<br />
<a href="http://linearticulator.com/files/linearticulator/degrafademo/degrafaTest.html" rel="nofollow">http://linearticulator.com/files/linearticulator/degrafademo/degrafaTest.html</a></p>
<p>That example has all the cubic beziers downconverted to quadratics. Which is obviously not necessary with degrafa&#8230;so I will make that an option.</p>
<p>I see you guys are working on an AIR version which is great, I&#8217;m not seeking to compete directly with that, I am hoping to implement degrafa output as one of a number of options for different code format outputs &#8211; you can see some actionscript2 animations generated from svg sources at the home page of the linearticulator.com site. I&#8217;d be keen to talk to someone on the core team about a few things&#8230;things that I can do correctly when I output actionscript code but can&#8217;t see how to do in degrafa markup. e.g. skew transforms on gradients. (I see Transform is listed as &#8216;coming soon&#8217; so perhaps that&#8217;s the reason although I may have overlooked something too!)</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@VINAY

http://code.google.com/p/degrafa/

cheers

-jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@VINAY</p>
<p><a href="http://code.google.com/p/degrafa/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/degrafa/</a></p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>-jason</p>
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		<title>By: vinay</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>vinay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool stuff.
I wanna do experiment with it. can u provide the source code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool stuff.<br />
I wanna do experiment with it. can u provide the source code?</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg,

Thanks for your visit.

Any rendering in Flash boils down to 3 essential commands moveTo, lineTo and curveTo. Thatâ€™s it. That is all we have. So although we allow a Cubic BÃ©zier to be specified; underneath deep in the bowls of the framework we split it into curveTo commands. A curveTo is in essence a Quadratic BÃ©zier curve i.e. a start point, a control point and an end point. Everything rendered is broken down into these 3 commands. The goal overall for us is to hide the complexities from the end user and make available things they could not easily do otherwise.

Contact one of us via the team section if you interested in being part of this effort.

cheers

jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg,</p>
<p>Thanks for your visit.</p>
<p>Any rendering in Flash boils down to 3 essential commands moveTo, lineTo and curveTo. Thatâ€™s it. That is all we have. So although we allow a Cubic BÃ©zier to be specified; underneath deep in the bowls of the framework we split it into curveTo commands. A curveTo is in essence a Quadratic BÃ©zier curve i.e. a start point, a control point and an end point. Everything rendered is broken down into these 3 commands. The goal overall for us is to hide the complexities from the end user and make available things they could not easily do otherwise.</p>
<p>Contact one of us via the team section if you interested in being part of this effort.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>jason</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I can&#039;t believe it. I&#039;ve just found your site and this example is quite similar to something I&#039;ve been working on. I&#039;m a flash dev (more of a coder than a designer), I haven&#039;t tried flex yet. I wrote an svg to actionscript convertor in php and have been using the svg tiger as a test case as well. I haven&#039;t implemented everything in svg conversion yet, just the path commands and the styles - the tiger renders well. I think the difference is that my approach currently converts the cubic beziers to sequences of quadratic beziers etc, although all that is easily configurable. The broad scope of what you&#039;re doing here seems impressive. I really need to give flex a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I can&#8217;t believe it. I&#8217;ve just found your site and this example is quite similar to something I&#8217;ve been working on. I&#8217;m a flash dev (more of a coder than a designer), I haven&#8217;t tried flex yet. I wrote an svg to actionscript convertor in php and have been using the svg tiger as a test case as well. I haven&#8217;t implemented everything in svg conversion yet, just the path commands and the styles &#8211; the tiger renders well. I think the difference is that my approach currently converts the cubic beziers to sequences of quadratic beziers etc, although all that is easily configurable. The broad scope of what you&#8217;re doing here seems impressive. I really need to give flex a try.</p>
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		<title>By: sagar</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>sagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow great man but i want the source code to download and try it out
pls give it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow great man but i want the source code to download and try it out<br />
pls give it</p>
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		<title>By: Dominique</title>
		<link>http://www.degrafa.org/blog/2007/07/how-complex-can-you-get-with-degrafa-very/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason

Any news about the beta ?

Cheers, Dominique</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason</p>
<p>Any news about the beta ?</p>
<p>Cheers, Dominique</p>
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